{"id":5998,"date":"2021-05-11T10:41:11","date_gmt":"2021-05-11T08:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joannacholuj.pl\/?p=5998"},"modified":"2021-05-11T10:41:11","modified_gmt":"2021-05-11T08:41:11","slug":"rozmawianie-z-roslinami-talking-to-plants","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/joannacholuj.pl\/en\/blog\/2021\/05\/11\/rozmawianie-z-roslinami-talking-to-plants\/","title":{"rendered":"Rozmawianie z ro\u015blinami Talking to plants"},"content":{"rendered":"

Z dyskusji na Roots of Slavic Magic Group – Korzenie wiedzy s\u0142owia\u0144skiej .<\/h4>\n

Rozmawianie z ro\u015blinami\u00a0 Talking to plants<\/h4>\n

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KAREN WALASEK :<\/p>\n

Zastanawiam si\u0119 nad kwesti\u0105 s\u0142owia\u0144skich tradycji bezpo\u015bredniego rozmawiania z ro\u015blinami i drzewami oraz innymi stworzeniami. W innych rdzennych tradycjach widzimy rozmow\u0119 i wzajemno\u015b\u0107 obdarowywania si\u0119. Wiem, \u017ce synkretyzm zast\u0105pi\u0142 wiele tego typu rzeczy m\u0119skim jednym bogiem, a nie poszczeg\u00f3lnymi gatunkami lub b\u00f3stwami, wi\u0119c zastanawiam si\u0119 nad przyk\u0142adami przypadk\u00f3w, w kt\u00f3rych m\u00f3g\u0142 on przetrwa\u0107 w rytua\u0142ach i praktykach.
\nW innym po\u015bcie kto\u015b wspomnia\u0142 o w\u0119\u017cu gospodyni w ogrodzie i karmieniu go. Wiem, \u017ce istniej\u0105 rytua\u0142y, je\u015bli chodzi o og\u00f3lne zbiory, ale co z relacjami z konkretnymi zaanga\u017cowanymi osobami? Przyk\u0142ady, takie jak podzi\u0119kowanie za pszenic\u0119 lub rozmowa z ro\u015blin\u0105 i pro\u015bba o pozwolenie na zbiory i bezpo\u015brednie poinformowanie jej, dlaczego chcesz zbiera\u0107. Czy to si\u0119 dzieje?<\/p>\n

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I am wondering about the question of Slavic traditions of talking to plants and trees and others creatures directly. In other indigenous traditions we see a conversation, and a gifting reciprocity. I know the syncretism replaced a lot of this sort of thing with the male one god, rather than the individual species or deities so I wonder about examples of cases where it might have survived in rituals and practices.<\/div>\n
In another post someone mentioned the housekeeper snake in the garden and feeding it. I know there are rituals in terms of overall harvest, but what about the relationship to the specific individuals involved? Examples such as thanking the wheat or talking with the plant and asking permission to harvest and telling it directly why you want to harvest. Does this happen?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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jOANNA CHO\u0141UJ<\/p>\n

it s not really animism. It s pure old ancient be it slavic or vedic or old chinese belief that all universe has spirit , soul..cause there is no pure matter. Spirit and matter are mingled and all is connected. Jing jang. Be it one and separate at the same time. And yes. Respect to all creation<\/span><\/p>\n

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Everybody did it and do it. Not snobish intellectuals but simple people. Of course u talk to ur home animals.. Of course ! \"\ud83d\ude42\"<\/span> come here Mu\u0107ka is to the cow… Wio koniku or prr is to the horse.. Kici kici to the cat.. When u go searching mushroom u ask which one is good. Same for plants.. Older times people used to say I m sorry i have to take ur life ..do u allow me to take just that not too much.. To animals.. In hunting , at farms.. To trees being cut<\/div>\n
.etc.. Wiedzma like attitude was everywhere.. And still is.. My grandma would say – grow grow my cake.. And i do the same. yOU would turn water or soup in the proper direction and u would not throw bread. And kiss it. And when it drops also pick up and kiss it..and bless any food.. Farmer would kiss the earth.. And trees..and their animals and hug.. Normal thing in all Nature ancient old philosophy slavic countries. Now if are real intuitive wiedzma or wiedzmin creatures talk back. Telepathy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to nie jest naprawd\u0119 animizm. Jest to czysta stara staro\u017cytna, s\u0142owia\u0144ska, wedyjska lub stara chi\u0144ska wiara, \u017ce \u200b\u200bca\u0142y wszech\u015bwiat ma ducha, dusz\u0119\u2026 poniewa\u017c nie ma czystej materii. Duch i materia s\u0105 zmieszane i wszystko jest po\u0142\u0105czone. Jing jang. B\u0105d\u017a jednym i oddzielnym w tym samym czasie. I tak. Szacunek dla ca\u0142ego stworzenia<\/p>\n

Wszyscy to robili i robi\u0105. Nie snobistyczni intelektuali\u015bci, ale pro\u015bci ludzie. Oczywi\u015bcie, \u017ce rozmawiasz ze swoimi zwierz\u0119tami domowymi. Oczywi\u015bcie! \ud83d\ude42 chod\u017a Mu\u0107ka jest dla krowy\u2026 Wio koniku lub prr jest dla konia\u2026 Kici kici dla kota\u2026 Kiedy idziesz szuka\u0107 grzyba, pytasz, kt\u00f3ry jest dobry. To samo dotyczy ro\u015blin. W dawnych czasach ludzie m\u00f3wili, \u017ce przepraszam, \u017ce musz\u0119 odebra\u0107 ci \u017cycie.. Pozw\u00f3l mi zabra\u0107 tylko to, nie za du\u017co .. Do zwierz\u0105t .. Na polowaniu, na farmach .. Do wycinania drzew
\n.etc .. Wiedzmy —\u00a0 taka postawa by\u0142a wsz\u0119dzie .. I nadal jest .. Moja babcia m\u00f3wi\u0142a do ciasta\u00a0 – Ro\u015bnij ro\u015bnij moje ciasto ..<\/p>\n

I ja robi\u0119 to samo
\nMieszasz wod\u0119 lub zup\u0119 we w\u0142a\u015bciwym kierunku i nie rzucasz chleba. I ca\u0142ujesz go. A kiedy spadnie, podnie\u015b go i poca\u0142uj\u2026 i b\u0142ogos\u0142aw wszelkie jedzenie\u2026 Rolnik ca\u0142owa\u0142 ziemi\u0119\u2026 I drzewa\u2026 i ich zwierz\u0119ta i przytula\u0142\u2026 Normalna rzecz we wszystkich krajach s\u0142owia\u0144skich staro\u017cytnej filozofii przyrody. Teraz, je\u015bli jest si\u0119 naprawd\u0119 intuicyjn\u0105 osob\u0105, wiedzm\u0105 lub wiedzminem, stworzenia rozmawiaj\u0105 z tob\u0105. Telepatia<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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